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More ill conceived Conservative economics

August 16th, 2009

I’ve just arrived home after a two week holiday in New Brunswick (what a lovely province!) and Nova Scotia, sorted through the mail pile and found the latest Conservative bulk mailing.  You know the ones, they come on a single 8.5 x 11 black and white sheet with some policy initiative or other outlined and a “Who is on the right track” question (Ignatieff, Harper, Layton or May) with an arrow pointing to Harper’s name of course.  We seem to get one every week or so.

Of course, all of this is merely a means to compile the Conservatives electoral database and that’s fine as that’s the way the game is played, though I would strongly object if they were found financing this through MP’s budgets rather than party funds. Hmmm…

This latest mailing, though, states, “The Conservative government.  Investing in airports. Investing in you.” and goes on to talk about the investments in airport security that the feds are making.

Well no one would object to being safer, of course, but I have to ask how often have you not felt safe on a flight from a Canadian airport?  We had that Air India event, but that was quite a few years ago.  And 911 not so long ago.  Of course joining with the US and going round the world pissing people off will make enemies, so I guess it’s logical that we may be at some increased threat level from what used to be.

Frankly I feel far safer using air travel that driving in a car, particularly here in the GTA where we seem to license almost anyone who can see over the wheel and many who cannot, with no consideration of testing people on manual transmissions, no consideration of the differences in winter driving, no consideration of mandated snow tires, etc.

And half of this expenditure seems to be based on making air travel more efficient to “improve the passenger and freight air service experience.”

To what end? To decrease the hassle factor and thus increase people’s interest in traveling by air?

Where is the recognition from the Conservatives that air travel will seriously decline as a means of personal transport in years to come? Serious Climate Change policy would make this necessary, so I can understand why the Cons don’t mention this as many of them still don’t believe in it, and they still view such policies as a choice.  Fair enough, even if I disagree.  But Peak Oil will make the diminishing of air travel inevitable in the not too distant future, except for the super rich (and likely the politicians spending our money) so there is really no choice involved.

If you don’t believe me, reference what Jeff Rubin has to say about air travel.  He lays out the case fairly well.

It’s astounding that the Conservative Party still manages to snow people into believing they are strong stewards of the economy, when they get so much of it wrong.  They completely failed to predict the current recession even though many of us were saying as loudly as possible that it was coming.  And they seem to be missing all the signs of economic upheaval that Peak Oil will bring.

Banking on the future of air travel is a flight of fancy.

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Going Tankless

May 31st, 2009

The Toronto Star had a completely one-sided article today on the pitfalls of switching to a tankless water heater.

For those who may not be aware, yes, you can have a water heater that does not involve heating up a tank and keeping it hot forever just in case you might want some.  Here’s a typical installation if you’ve never seen one.

Tankless Water Heater

The first time I ever heard of tankless hot water was from my mother after her trip to Europe in 1978.  These heaters were commonplace in Holland then and still are.  In fact, tank based systems for residential use are hard to find there. (Likely since they make less sense that the tankless version.)

Mollie and I switched to tankless two years ago after buying our “recession house.”  Yes, it was a bit of a learning curve, but the savings are there if you are willing to adjust your thinking a bit.

But back to the Star…

A tankless water heater needs extra maintenance, he found. It has to be serviced once a year with a vinegar solution to keep it clean and functioning properly.

“Estimated cost is $100 a year – more than the gas savings.”

This is an apples and oranges comparison.  Yes, you have to be aware to keep the unit clean by doing the annual flush AND/OR by having a water softener for all water going into it.  But if the owner was not ALSO flushing his tank every year and willing to live with the constantly degrading efficiency, why the double standard?

He had to remove his water-saving shower heads, since there wasn’t a strong enough flow to keep the water heater on.

Admittedly there are issues with pressure and this takes a bit of work/thought.  There can be a problem with these shower heads, but I think it’s more likely that there are other contributing factors.

The tankless heaters have an inherent pressure drop just from the design of the heat exchanger that tanks don’t have, so if you make the mistake of installing them without any other changes in your piping system you might notice a pressure problem.  I had this problem and had to go back and replace a few gate valves with ball valves to avoid the problem.  You also have to look at your cold water system to make sure you have somewhat equal pressure drops in hot and cold sides, or else adjusting your temperatures can be problematic.

It should also be noted here that this problem would be avoided with a tankless unit installed in new construction since the system could be designed to accomodate.  It’s only an issue for retrofits and it just takes a bit if careful thought.

“I now waste more water waiting for the hot water to arrive. It takes 10 to 15 seconds every time you turn on the tap for the hot water to get up to temperature – and up to a minute with the tap on full for the hot water to arrive on the second floor.”

Really?  And the hot water residing in your tank was magically transported to the second floor?  Instantaneously?  No waiting?  Gimme a break.

But seriously, in new construction the heater could be placed closer to the faucets and avoid some of this delay.

“Many households take longer showers. From 10 minutes, they go to 12 minutes, knowing they won’t run out of water. So, what happens to the savings? Zero.”

Yeah.  I don’t know what to say to that.  Apples … meet oranges.  Comparing 10 minute showers with a tank to 12 minute showers with tankless and being disappointed with the result is rather a giant mental leap.  So, if the price of gas were higher this article would say that people are switching to 15 minute showers and saving nothing?  BS!  THEY ARE HAVING 15 MINUTE SHOWERS, which I think we could all agree is the basis of the problem.  Forget the tankless water heater, why don’t you start by keeping your showers to under 5 minutes!

Realistically I think that most people who go so far as to install one of these things is already in the mindset to save water as well as energy, so this comment is moot.

You may be disappointed with what you get when you need a trickle of water – say, to clean a razor blade while shaving. The cold water has to flow through the tankless unit and kick on a heating mechanism. This can take a while.

“Tankless systems won’t give you the same hot water in a low-flow scenario as what you get from a storage tank,” Krill says.

No kidding.  So try putting some hot water in the sink and leave the tap off while you shave.  Was that so hard?  Again, these tankless hot water heaters require a bit of thought about your habits.

A hot water tank uses about 40,000 BTUs of energy (British thermal units) but a tankless unit uses five times that, or 200,000 BTUs. “It fires up the burners and pounds the cold water to raise the temperature to 120 degrees Fahrenheit,” he says.

Well, mine is 130,000 BTUs.  They come in different sizes just like tanks do.  So what?  This represents an instantaneous energy flow.  To get to total energy used you have to consider how often the burner is firing compared to the smaller burner on a tank that fires far more often.

And there’s a second problem here.  120 degree F?  Are you kidding me?  Why would you possibly need your water that hot?  If you have it set that high you will have to mix in cold water for your shower and lose all that energy that you just paid for in heating the water for nothing.

A friend bought a model that has a remote panel so he can dial in the temp water he wants and then only needs to turn on the hot water for showers.  Each family member has their prefered shower temp.  Sadly, the one I bought does not have this but my next house will.

The municipal water temperature is about 70F in summer, but can drop as low as 40F in winter.  The tankless unit has to work harder to heat water from 40F to 120F. This means your endless supply can run out in the cooler months.

I see.  And the tank does not have to work harder because it is on that different, magical municipal system?  I’m sorry, but if you run out in the winter you merely did not choose the correct size of heater for the conditions in your house.  End of story.

So, scale back your expectations in winter. Instead of two showers and doing dishes at the same time, do the dishes later.

Ah, now we get to the heart of the problem.  [Dripping sarcasm deleted.] As I said before, these heaters do take a bit of getting used to and some adjustment of habits.  Yes, larger units are available which would allow for two showers and doing dishes at the same time, but they will not have nearly the savings of a smaller heater which requires that showers not be simultaneous.  Two people in the same shower works well, but this could also results in substantially more than 12 minutes.  ;-)

Next week we’ll look closely at the cost of buying/renting a tankless water heater system.

I can’t wait.

Glenn Hubbers Energy, Water

GPO AGM

May 13th, 2009

For anyone attending the Green Party of Ontario AGM on Saturday, I’ll be delivering a presentation on Power Generation in Ontario on Saturday afternoon.  See the agenda here.

I’m still trying to work out logistics of recording the event, and if I do (and assuming it’s not embarrasing!)  I’ll post it here.

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A short word about Nuclear Power

April 7th, 2009

Nuclear Economics
There’s been a lot of hype about nuclear power, and the “nuclear renaissance.” Some would have us believe that it’s the only solution to climate change, the cheapest power on earth, the creator of recession proof jobs, and the magic bullet needed to maintain our lifestyle while leaving all the birds, butterflies and bunnies twittering about.

Bull.

The Ontario Clean Air Alliance has a new web site (well, new to me as I’ve just found it via Chris Tindal) called Ontario’s Green Future that specifically talks about nuclear power in Ontario. Check it out.

In their argument, they argue that nuclear gets a free ride that greener sources of power do not get that skews the economics.

  • Radioactive waste disposal costs:  The Nuclear Waste Management Organization estimates these costs will be more than $20 billion for existing waste. Taxpayers will foot a major share of this bill, including 100% of any costs over $10 billion.
  • Nuclear Liability Costs: No private insurer will insure a nuclear plant against a major accident. Therefore, the government artificially limits the liability of nuclear plant operators to $75 million — a token sum that will be dwarfed by the real costs of even a modest accident.
  • Nuclear plant decommissioning: Ontario’s electricity consumers and taxpayers are responsible for 100% of the costs of taking apart and disposing of the nuclear reactors run by privately owned Bruce Power.

But there are plenty of additional arguments against the economics of nuclear as well.

For the Canadian / Ontario case:

  • Which taxpayer are you today? Should the contract for new nuclear be awarded to AECL and should the Ontario government successfully contract for a fixed price (which I sincerely doubt anyway, but bear with me) what is the result?  The Canadian taxpayer would be backstopping the construction risk on behalf of the Ontario rate payer.  Now, I don’t know ’bout y’all, but that counts me twice!!  And imagine how that will fly in all those provinces who do not have anything to do with the nuclear cycle.
  • Contracts are not always what they appear: Another little tidbit about the Bruce nuclear reactor is the Ontario government signing a take or pay contract with them with the government responsible for the Bruce to Milton transmission line.  The bottom line is that we will pay for their power once it is ready, regardless of whether the transmission line is in place to bring it online.  No other technology gets this advantage.

On a world scale, Joseph Romm at Climate Progress has a great deal to say about the possibility of carrying off this nuclear vision, including one of my favourites, “Exclusive analysis, Part 1: The staggering cost of new nuclear power.”

As an engineer I’m really not as worried about the nuclear waste problem as many others, although I don’t deny it’s a problem. To me it’s merely an engineering/logistics/long term storage problem which, while it can’t be “solved” per se, can be dealt with by the application of enough money over enough time. The problem is that this money * time equation is never included in the rosy picture presented by nuclear enthusiasts.

So if you want to talk nuclear I’m happy to. But the first step in that conversation should be agreement on honest economics.

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The Liberal tax-shift vs the Green Tax-Shift

July 5th, 2008

Since the introduction of the Liberal carbon tax and tax shifting plan a couple of weeks ago, I have found myself in numerous conversations trying to explain the difference from the Green Party’s plan.

Boiling this down to sound bytes is a difficult, but necessary task for us.  There are many small differences, but a few key ones.

  1. Essentially, the Liberals have proposed a very watered down version of the GPC plan.  It’s pointed in the right direction, but is taking baby steps, and we don’t believe that it will get us where we need to be in the time frame necessary to avoid dangerous climate change tipping points.  The Liberals propose to start at $10 per tonne, increasing to $40 per tonne.  The GPC proposed $50 per tonne to start.  The Liberals claim our plan is “excessive.”  We say, well, do you want to address climate change or do you want to just talk about it some more?
  2. Half of Canada’s emissions come from the largest industrial emitters.  This includes power generation, the cement industry, and the oil & gas companies.  (This is why the GPC also endorses a cap & trade system for these emitters.  This is similar to the Conservatives, except we want actual caps instead of intensity caps, and similar to the NDP except that we admit that the costs will be passed on to the consumer where they seem to be under the illusion that those big fat corporations will just absorb all the costs.) But a great portion of the other half comes from transportation, which is why we do not agree with the Liberal’s exemption for gasoline.
  3. Most importantly, suppose for a moment that climate change did not exist.  Do you think that the Liberals would still be proposing this policy?  I think not.  But the GPC would.  Why?  Because we believe in tax shifting, or placing the tax burden on resource use, pollution and waste and decreasing the burden on employment and personal income, as a basic concept of fiscal policy.

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Elizabeth May on Dion’s Carbon Tax Plan

June 9th, 2008
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Canadian Green Party leader Elizabeth May discusses the Liberal carbon tax plan and the NDP’s negative reaction to it. “I’m disappointed Mr. Layton is on the wrong side of this one…. I am afraid that it has something to do with wanting to hurt the Liberals more than wanting to help the climate.” (CTV’s Question Period, May 25, 2008.)

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Canadian Taxpayers Federation

May 21st, 2008

A friend of mine passed on this little email exchange that he had recently with the Canadian Taxpayers Federation and gave me permission to blog it.

I’m not sure what I would have expected, but certainly I didn’t expect the rudeness of this response.

Clearly the Ontario Director of the CTF does not believe the science of Climate Change, and certainly does not represent my views on tax policy either.

From: Robert ——–
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008
To: on.director@taxpayer.com
Cc: wilfeb1@parl.gc.ca; jflaherty@fin.gc.ca
Subject: CTF Gas Tax Petition

Mr. Kevin Gaudet
Ontario Director
Canadian Taxpayers Federation

Dear Mr. Gaudet,

I was disappointed recently to see that the Canadian Taxpayers Federation is promoting cuts to gas and diesel taxes. As a Canadian taxpayer I want to make it very clear that your organization absolutely does not represent my views on this issue. Lowering gas taxes “across the board” will hurt drivers and the environment by encouraging greater consumption and ultimately driving gas prices higher in the long term. In addition, the roadway expansion that your organization suggests that gas taxes should be financing doesn’t address traffic congestion, but simply encourages more people to drive cars. Lower gas taxes are the last thing we need right now. If Canadians do indeed need relief from the rising costs of energy, that relief should be directed to those who truly need it, such as lower-income families, through other means such as federal income taxes. High income-earning Canadians who drive gas-guzzling SUV’s choose to do so, and should be taxed for that choice.

I do share your organization’s concern with how the government spends the money it collects through gas taxes, however I believe that these funds should be directed to improving the efficiency of our transportation system through improved transit, promoting carpooling, supporting cycling and walking, and financing transportation demand management initiatives. Your suggestion that our government’s priority should be “rebuilding Canada’s aging roads” would encourage more people to drive single-occupant vehicles. Among other negative effects, this will drive up the price of gas (based on the basic economic law of supply and demand).

In summary, the suggestion that the Canadian federal government should lower gas taxes and/or direct the revenues from those taxes to constructing/expanding roads and highways is an extremely short-sighted proposal. I strongly urge the Canadian Taxpayers Federation to abandon this poorly-conceived and counter-productive campaign immediately. I would be happy to further discuss this issue, or refer you to reference materials on the subject (take five minutes to review “Appropriate Response to Rising Fuel Prices: Citizens Should Demand, ‘Raise My Prices Now!’”, available online at www.vtpi.org/fuelprice.pdf). We can do much better than the “knee-jerk” reaction that your organization is currently promoting.

Sincerely,
Robert ——–
Richmond Hill, Ontario

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From: Kevin Gaudet [mailto:kgaudet@taxpayer.com]
Sent: May 17, 2008
To: ‘Robert ——–’
Subject: RE: CTF Gas Tax Petition

Thank you for your note. Of course, the CTF disagrees. The Gas Tax Honesty Campaign has been in place for ten years and is anything but a ‘knee-jerk’ response, unlike the poorly-researched, ill-guided knee-jerk carbon tax movement of today in the name of fighting ‘global-warming’, I mean ‘climate change’, I mean cleaning the earth, I mean any new way to raise tax revenues.

We are a national not-for-profit organization representing the views of our 68,000 supporters across Canada – 20% of whom are in Ontario.

I appreciate the research. Our proposal is that gas taxes be lowered and dedicated to the infrastructure deficit in roads, bridges, and highways.

Regards,

Kevin Gaudet
Ontario Director
Canadian Taxpayers Federation
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Stephane Dion and his (not so) new idea…

May 16th, 2008
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York Region Power Supply – Part 2

May 14th, 2008

I’ve had quite the holiday from my blog (over a month, yikes!) and thought that I’d get back into the swing with a hot topic here in York Region, Part 2 of my story on the York Region Power Supply.

(see Part 1 here.)

This second part of the story is long overdue, and the local newspapers are filling up with all sorts of information about the proposed power plant for northern York Region. Some of that information is even accurate! Though there’s quite a lot that’s not.

In Part 1 I discussed three different types of natural gas fired plants. They all have different efficiency points inherent in their design and they all meet different purposes.

The plant being requested by the OPA for Northern York Region is a “peaking plant”, meaning that it will produce electricity only during times of peak demand. Typically this means that it needs to start producing electricity very quickly when it’s called upon, and will only run for about 10% of the hours (about 900) in a given year. The design of equipment that can meet the conditions is fairly inefficient as compared to other types of plants. There is a range of efficiencies available on the market (in the range of 35 to 43% for this class) and these are also reflected in the price with the more efficient equipment being generally more costly.

To understand why the OPA thinks we need a peaking plant (rather than a combined cycle (CC) or a combined heat and power (CHP) plant proposed by certain other people) you have to understand more about how the entire system works, where and how power is generated and used.

Strictly speaking, “demand” is the load on the system every time someone turns on an electrical device in the province. This could be a light, fridge, freezer, stove, vacuum, air conditioner, fans, pumps, motors, computers, etc. You name it. Every time you flick a switch (or something comes on automatically like your A/C or fridge) you are increasing demand.

Demand is typically higher at certain times of day and at certain times of year. The “peak” demand period usually occurs during the late afternoons on summer weekdays when there is a crossover between our programmable thermostats starting to cool the house down while some people are still at work since some businesses shut down later than others.

Of course, demand that rises and falls like this also implies that there is a minimum demand level which the industry calls “baseload”. This is the power demand that is pretty much there 24/7. It can vary by time of year, but typically day to day changes are not considered baseload changes.

There is some history to this call for a power plant in York Region, specifically two things that took place in parallel.

History #1 – The Supply Mix

In December 2005, the newly formed Ontario Power Authority wrote a document called the Supply Mix Advice and submitted it to the Minister of Energy. The Minister essentially relabeled this document and sent it back to the OPA, calling it the Supply Mix Directive. There were subtle changes, but the substance was essentially unchanged.

This Supply Mix Directive (SMD) is the document which lays out the vision for Ontario power supply 25 years down the road. It considers things like the coal plants closing, load growth with population growth and economic growth, and the old nuclear rectors which are coming to the end of their useful lives.

Based on these assumptions of increasing demand and supplies which are coming off line, the OPA sees a widening gap between the generation available and the demand. The SMD specifies what the mix of power supplies (nuclear, coal, wind, hydro, gas, biomass, solar, etc) will be in 25 years. It calls for maintaining nuclear to be approx 50% of our power supply, primarily for baseload power, and natural gas fired facilities for both peaking and intermediate use. It calls for a certain amount of renewables (win, hydro & biomass) and for a certain (some say modest, some say aggressive) amount to be addressed through conservation programs.

Fast forward to the fall of 2007. The OPA has now written a very large document called the Integrated Power System Plan (IPSP) which spells out in detail their proposed means of achieving the supply mix directive. In it, they identify 4 natural gas-fired peaking power plants to be built, the first of which will be in northern York Region.  They want natural gas fired peaking to meet them SMD, and they have chosen the location based on a number of factors.

The IPSP was submitted to the Ontario Energy Board for consideration, and it will be having public hearsing during 2008. You can read all about that at http://www.oeb.gov.on.ca.  I found it interesting that the opening commentary to this submission was a statement that the OEB’s role was to consider whether this was the most prudent plan to meet the SMD, NOT whether the Supply Mix was the proper goal in the first place.

I remember talking this over with a friend (who shall remain nameless) who works at the OPA. I asked, “Given this series of events, when was the public allowed to question and debate the wisdom of the Supply Mix?”

He said, “That would have been the provincial election.” You remember that one? The one where the two largest political parties basically agreed on the supply mix, so it was not even discussed? The one where we couldn’t talk about energy because the media were so intent on whether we funded faith based schools? Yeah, that one.

History #2 – York Region

In 2004, seeing a crossover between supply and demand growth, Hydro One proposed upgrading their transmission system between Markham and Aurora. Since transmission is all that Hydro One does, this solution is not surprising. The people fought back, and eventually Hydro One withdrew their proposal and turned the matter over to the newly formed OPA.

The OPA set up a working group made up of reps from each of the municipal councils and citizen members from each town. I applied for this working group but was turned down based on a perceived conflict of interest due to my employer at the time, a consulting firm that does work for the region.

The working group spent many volunteer Sunday’s locked up in a conference room getting information from all parties and considering the alternatives. They eventually issued a recommendation report to the OPA and, generally speaking, this report has been followed with some differences. This report called for local generation within the region. You can read all about this here, a website maintained by Richard Johnson of Aurora.

The other aspect of this that I have not mentioned as yet is System Reliability, something on which the OPA and the working group has placed a great deal of weight. It happens that the people who have built power generation, transmission, and distribution systems over the past century have also created some standards for the reliability of those systems. It works by modeling the impact of the loss of a generator, or key transmission line, or other component, and having enough redundancy built in so that the loss of one of these elements does not result in a power outage.  Turns out one of the main drivers for the OPA locating this plant in York Region is the reliability of the local system.

So here I have my dilemma, where I can look at this one of three ways.

  1. As an engineer, I put a lot of stock in the reliability argument, and would certainly come to the same conclusion as the OPA in order to make sure we have power in the region in the event of an outage of some key component.
  2. As an employee of a developer, of course, there is the business opportunity in responding to the OPA’s Request for Proposal.  But frankly the same companies would be lining up to do the job if the OPA was asking for a smaller or larger or combined cycle plant, or anything else.  So I don’t really see that as an issue.
  3. But as a Green Party candidate, it is my firm position that this province is not doing anywhere near enough on the conservation front. Conservation is a fundamental necessity to address Climate Change, something which the McGuinty government claims to care about, their actions notwithstanding.  Conservation is also the lowest cost alternative. Unfortunately, our old style politicians, who worry more about getting re-elected than good long term policy, don’t think that the policy necessary to drive a conservation culture will achieve that.

So where does all this leave me and how can I reconcile my conflict? Well, here’s what I think.

Based on the OPA’s mindset about their mandate, and their lack of any historical precedent of load decreasing while population increases, something will be built in York Region.  It could be a power plant here, or it could be a transmission line with a power plant elsewhere, but something will be built.

As an engineer concerned about system reliability, I understand this conclusion.

As an employee, I’ll do my best to see that my company is successful over our competitors.

And as a Green Party candidate, let me say this.

This community has the power to set the precedent which does not yet exist, despite the lack of government policy on all levels to assist.  We can lower demand, despite our growing population.  We can do this with  determination, with an examination of our lifestyles, a rethinking of our priorities.  We can do this by pressuring our municipal governments to adopt the stongest building codes in the country.  We can do this by investing, insulating our homes, changing our appliances, installing solar panels, etc.  We can do this by making it socially unacceptable for the people and businesses in this region to waste energy.

As long as there are businesses with lights on when no one is working, or homes who have not signed onto the PeakSaver program, or parking lots lit up all night for nothing, or…, or…, or…, then we are not doing enough.   Every light and electrical appliance running when it doesn’t need to is driving the need for this plant.

If we do this, we can look at the OPA and say, “See, we were right!”

If we do this, we’ll have set a precedent for every other community that will go through this same struggle.

If we don’t, we’ll have proven them right.

Glenn Hubbers Energy

Who will negotiate NAFTA?

February 27th, 2008

Globe and Mail writer John Ibbitson reports that both Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama have committed to demanding that NAFTA be renegotiated if they are elected to the White House in November.

Asked whether she would inform Canada and Mexico that the U.S. government was activating the six-month opt-out clause under which any country can leave the deal, Ms. Clinton replied: “I’ve said that I will renegotiate NAFTA, so obviously we’d have to say to Canada and Mexico that that’s exactly what we’re going to do; … we will opt out of NAFTA unless we renegotiate it.”

Mr. Obama agreed with Ms. Clinton’s stand. “I will make sure that we renegotiate in the same way that Senator Clinton talked about,” he said. “I think, actually, Senator Clinton’s answer on this one is right. I think we should use the hammer of a potential opt-out as leverage.

As if I didn’t have enough reasons to think that the world would be better place if America elected the Democratic nominee (most of them provided by 8 years of George W Bush and crew), this one is icing on the cake. Here we have the top two Democratic contenders committing to do exactly what the Green Party has been advocating. (see Vision Green)

And this also adds to my list of reasons why we need an election in Canada sooner, rather than later. Do we really want Stephen Harper and the Conservatives renegotiating this deal?

They gave in on softwood lumber, they have not insisted on a proper dispute resolution mechanism, they taxed income trusts making them ripe for foreign takeovers, they have shown no interest in limiting flows of oil, natural gas, or any other resources across our border, and have shown no interest in establishing a national strategic oil reserve for Canada.

Yes, NAFTA needs to be renegotiated. But Canadians must think long and hard about who they want at the table for those discussions and vote accordingly.

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